What if I don't like the angle TECK chose? I had the Microsoft Sculpt keyboard for a few years before that, which I liked, but the build quality was very bad and I had two break on me. It is designed from the ground up to ride where there are no roads, no trails and no people. I have 123456 on the left of my ErgoDox and 567890 on the right. Loved the feel and sound, but the tiny form caused my RSI, which prompted me to buy an ErgoDox EZ. Dactyl and the like are the only ergo keyboards I might label "next-generation.". I looked at over a dozen split keyboard options. In both cases, the switch is governing how much force is needed in total, and whether there's a "tactile bump" indicating activation before the switch bottoms out completely. I really like the Magic Keyboard in virtually every way. Not if you combine that feature with wireless or a desire for backlighting. But at least you know where you are. Luckily, low-travel versions of many good quality keyboard switches are being produced and developed more often now to cater the gaming market. I like the keyboard linked here because the thumb keys are at a different angle. Currently I use the Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000, an enormous dinosaur which can reliably be bought for $20 used. I'm a recent'ish convert from the MS Natural Ergonomic after decades. It's probably a standard headphone jack like the one on my Ergodox EZ. (This comment typed on an Ergodash: https://github.com/omkbd/ErgoDash It would be possible to press the key labelled with the noodle bowl using my thumb, although I'm not in the habit of doing so. The Dactyl was partly modeled after the Kinesis. The columnar layout was easily the worst decision, it took me. Neat! A hack to get around the 4-button max Macro limit in Oryx for Ergodox / Moonlander keyboards. https://tomoakley.me/article/2020/01/1-month-with-the-dactyl... https://github.com/pvinis/awesome-split-keyboards. The "6" key is on the wrong half, and I might experiment with a layout that isn't staggered typewriter style. specific to this keyboard: i want an ergo layout, but would not buy this keyboard unless there was a switch-less and cap-less option - 365 (plus fees + taxes + shipping/whatever) is a lot to pay and then also buy switches and keycaps. It's called QMK. - the layout is meh vs the Ergodox (I prefer the 1.5U lateral keys and the thumb clusters as they are on the Ergodox); - the wrist rests are really unnecessary. One the more recent ergo boards, I've switched to lower profile switches and that makes a non-trivial improvement as well. > I wish people would just copy the MS Natural Ergonomic 4000, but with better keyswitches. Are you expecting the flux capacitor to get backed up and thrash the alluvial dampers or something? * okay, maybe there is an exact amount in terms of how much money you can no longer make through typing ability that is lost, but my point is there is an intrinsic value to having fully functional hands. It depends if/when you stop. My last one was also in that range. Some people struggle with an Apple keypad due to the different modifier keys. Those features are what the mass consumer market wants. Having the number pad is great if you do a lot of book-keeping but for most people it is not needed. I don't touch type perfectly using the "official" method. I badly want this, but with Topre keys. There are only a couple competitors that are split, ortholinear, and mechanical (ergodox and some small custom others). There are versions with 2,3,4,5 and 6 keys per thumb cluster. On my ergodox, my thumbs can only operate two of the buttons. There's a real danger here - I generally pride myself as someone who is conscientious of consumerist tendencies, but it's become clear that my drive for better ergonomics is no longer about the actual facilitation of work or avoidance of injury. … We can't be the only ones surely? It is soft enough, lifts and supports my wrists and keeps them warm. My first decent keyboard was the Ergodox EZ, almost a year later I got a Dygma Raise. Kinesis Freestyle Pro is more similar, except for the ortholinear layout. I got partway through an Ergodox build before realizing this and will probably never use this thing. At the end of the day it's preference, but imho if you already have an Ergodox a Moonlander … Yes, I can switch between layouts, and I don't mind doing it when it's for short periods on other people's PCs. The Moonlander Mark 1 continues the design scheme of the ErgoDox EZ and Planck EZ in having columnar keys, is available in black or white colors, and with ten switch options at checkout. For a moment I thought ZSA referred to some little-known space agency. I do a ton of typing day by day, and Ergodox keyboards in reality are not any shaggy dog story relating to convenience. I think it would be better for the health of the population if split keyboards were less exclusive, along with different keyboard layouts like Colemak instead of most people being stuck on Qwerty which was designed to be awkward to slow down the typist to prevent typewriter jams. Economies of scale. I think it's coming. That layout also has the advantage of being a design you could use for a laptop, if only manufacturers put actual effort into their laptop keyboards. Tons of people making and selling DIY split / ortholinear split kits. The Maltron probably came up with the original design, and they're great for that, but the keys of the Kinesis feel better/sturdier. I might have to send an email in block caps to Durgod with my demands, since their products are so nice, down to the keycaps labels. They increase my typing speed, reduce latency and make long sessions effortless. Now look at Microsoft. I look forward too it. Using a columnar/grid key layout the number pad is strictly obviated by a layer switch to number pad keys under the right hand, and I use the same layer on my left hand for the function keys. It is the best keyboard I had so far, and this new one is not so different (it feels like a version 2.0 of the Ergodox rather than a totally different keyboard). How much disassembly does that take? Just buy, configure with a nice web tool. Being able to adjust the thumb would be nice, but I lucked out on hand size and mine works just fine. I might still choose to build the manuform, but it's nice that there's an option out there with adjustable thumb keys, I've never seen that before and I hope it becomes a trend in the split ergonomic keyboard world. You can't get all these things with a non US locale and a 'tkl' keyboard. I greatly enjoy it now and would not go back to a non-QMK keyboard (or a non-split one), though I wouldn't have gone for a columnar keyboard if I knew. And the OLEDs are a nice touch. With tactile and clicky switches, the concept is to reduce bottoming out by indicating the activation with heavier force partway through the downstroke. It is sad to see Logitech, Microsoft and others offer us compromised designs that cost either a pittance of serious money. ZSA has introduced their next-generation ergonomic keyboard this week in the form of the Moonlander Mark 1, which joins their current offering in the form of the ErgoDox EZ Shine and the … That direction seems more suitable to the thumb. Bought. I'll take these one at a time. (Shameless plug) Here's my keymap. Columnar keyboards like the ErgoDox EZ and the Moonlander make it easier to reach above and below the home row. I got one of the first ergodox-ez and I've loved it for a long time but it finally went out on me. a) different people need the spacing between the sides to be different. Try the Kinesis Advantage, got one with red switches, I do not type faster, but it’s very comfy for my old wrists and I do not make many mistakes. Very excited. In theory you move the keyboard down if the keys are taller. As for issue 3, this is quite a rare one, and we'll provide a new UHK version featuring USB-C and tons of improvements. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_ergonomic_keyboards#... Then they stopped making them. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Unfortunately, I seem to destroy one in about two years. Nice visualization! Is this some kind of cultural thing, where nobody in the DIY keyboard space is interested in making such a keyboard, even though there are keyboards marketed as ergonomic with cheap dome switches I don't prefer but still have function keys? I wish people would just copy the MS Natural Ergonomic 4000, but with better keyswitches. It is and it isn't. Or maybe you could make an Arduino with a USB port and just have it remap keys on the fly. Would be good to compare it to the Moonlander, I wish there was somewhere I could try out these different keyboards in person. Are there any good split keyboards with hand rests in the $100 range? 2. I'll take a closer look at the Dactyl, although at first glance it doesn't look very stable. Brilliant thanks! I have a memory foam one about 3-4" deep and the width of the keyboard. The dealbreaker for me is the connectivity. The problem is that Illustrator only has so many key combinations I can set up, and I have all but thirty of them allocated. Most reduced ergo keyboards are heavily reliant upon layers to provide access to function keys, media keys, numpad, etc. Bringing it within reach is a meaningful improvement. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69169.0. The same could be said about most extra features on this ZSA Moonlander board overall, although I think there's some utility in being able to leverage the non-essential keys when it's convenient, especially when it costs that much. The Surly Moonlander frame has offset rear forks a choice of offset or non-offset front forks. I've had to resolder connections in the Maltron several times; luckily its easy to do... they're just unshielded wires going everywhere! I chose the non-offset as it makes for an easier wheel build. I guess I kinda gave up spending time looking for a perfect solution after I decided the Kinesis wasn’t working for me, but it looks like something that might work for me. Kalih Brown are quite soft (40g) and quite low-travel (1.1 mm to actuation). > all you really need are slightly angled keys away from the center. When did you start to suspect that you needed to get a better keyboard? You can accomplish all of this for very cheap. The thumb cluster though is a fantastic improvement over pinky modifiers, that's not my complaint. But there is a whole world out there other than Topre and Cherry. Germ over a Gboards has taken this concept to absurdity with the Ginny. So the ~200 I spent on my custom Dactyl that has actually taken my pain from a level ~4 to near 0 is really a drop in the bucket for my health. https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/d9g3qe... https://alexjj.com/images/iris-example.jpg. The 4x6 looks really cool, but I felt I was already pushing it in terms of the amount of change I was talking on, i.e. [1]: https://trulyergonomic.com/ergonomic-keyboards/. I wouldn't call this a next-generation ergonomic keyboard unless it also had integrated pointing device options like the UHK has. They have taken an interesting approach with thumb cluster, single key on farend and 3 on near end of thumb. They are affordable, accessible and common microcontrollers. I recall this being posted to reddit years back. I wouldn't hold my breath on the Topre front, the company is notoriously conservative in their offerings. But standards are not kept to when you move out of the US layout. For a low-travel and ergonomic keyboard, check out the Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic. nothing wrong with nice things that make your life better. Thanks for letting me know about dactyl though! I wonder if you could put an Arduino into the MS Sculpt and get the best of both worlds. ), Meet the Ferris keeb that was just recently developed. I decided I didn't want to also buy a soldering kit and wait months for parts to arrive. See the Truly Ergonomic keyboard[1] for example. It has happened on two of my boards now where the usb connection has become loose. The white aesthetic is pretty cool, the black is a little meh. I’ve only owned it since March and like it but don’t love it. I just do not need a num block and think a split keyboard is easier for travelling. The price seems irrelevant based on the rest of your post (I mean, assuming spending $250 doesn't put you at financial risks). A split would be really nice though. Slightly Cheaper Split Keyboard. I have never peeked over the price wall into the higher end stuff because it genuinely has never occurred to me that my current keyboard+mouse were hindering my productivity. In the default configuration it's one press with the thumb to access the numpad without moving the hand [2], and another keypress puts the function keys there instead (with the same layout for 1-9) [3]. PS: I'm the founder of the UHK. They are cherry ml switches. Although because the alpha areas are now all 1u's it is actually probably easier to get your own blank sets or to cobble together an SA sculpted profile set, leaving the thumb keycaps as they are. Essentially you can get a US keyboard with a few of the keycaps moved around. Actually, there are people who have already written firmware in Rust for their DIY/kit keyboards. Mine was just delivered last week, I'm not sure I would have bought this though. press B with my right hand. Thanks for reminding me of this, really glad they're still iterating. One of the things I've seen complained about with the Ergodox and the reason most of the variants (Gergo, Iris, Corne) is the same thing your friend said. I have built myself a couple of Nyquist ortho splits and with my even lower volume I spent even more despite providing the labor and part of the design work. No soldering, assembly or programming required to make it work. My take after building my own fully-custom board is that the best ergonomics is had by ditching the outer column entirely to completely remove pinky reaching. Then things like rounding off the corner keys including escape. They do these awful design decisions on far too many of their keyboards. Currently built using QMK but will eventually have Rust firmware. They do have their Planck, but I agree it would be cool to see a compact split ergo from ZSA. https://www.reddit.com/r/olkb/comments/6wt6mi/evaluating_mcu... https://josh.robsonchase.com/rest-of-the-keyboard/, https://github.com/pierrechevalier83/ferris. I still have my MS keyboard but never want to use it. The Kinesis Advantage is the gold standard here. They make their own ALPS-derived switches. So the Advantage2 remains on my desk while I just use my laptop's keyboard for meetings/on-the-go. I haven't received it yet but I have two minor complaints: no option for blank sculpted keys to match the curvature like for the EZ and no option for Cherry MX white switches which are my favourites (there were offered when I bought my EZ). The extra 2 columns of keys on the left edge somehow reliably disorients me. I would not get a wireless keyboard now, it's not very unreliable, but enough to be a slight nuisance for no benefit. I've had an Advantage as my daily driver for 14 years. Say for example one wants to use it for gaming - most games expect there to be an outer column. I press B with both hands. How do you hit the smaller tumb keys? You don't need 2 separate pieces; all you really need are slightly angled keys away from the center. Yes, it takes a few hours to learn to adapt, typically spread out over a couple days, but no that's not difficult and no it doesn't impact your ability to jump over to a normal keyboard. This is another keyboard that might work better in a tray. Which one do you choose? I bought mine a few months ago, and honestly I have 0 regrets. via https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgoMechKeyboards/comments/f5h3d6/s... Then for the sculpted keyboards, mostly the Dactyl/ Dactyl Manuform families there are a bunch of vendors. Those are $80-$120 but I hope the build quality will pay off in the long run. It's become about completing myself. Looks like a buy if you were planning to buy a mechanical ergonomic keyboard. I'll admit I haven't found myself missing the f keys as much as I thought I would. The hardware is open; you can build or modify the keys as you please. How are you doing so? i want the experience to be as perfected as possible. There are chips for this. For some reason that one flew under my radar. It's wireless and has a standard layout which doesn't require any learning, including a real row of function-keys, full size arrow-block and pg-up/down. Kinda wish I hadn't now, this looks much more to my aesthetic taste. And the winner is… *Drumroll* THE BUTCHERED ERGODOX! But on the Ergodox, you only have 2 more keys. Removing the top reveals the silicone sheet that provides the rubber domes for the key action and protects the internals from spills and debris. Over the years my daily driver has been kinesis advantage2. Fn keys do suck tho and are cheap. * The tilting of the thumb cluster might make that 3rd key accessible to me. I built a Quefrency by them and like it a lot. I have several ergo keyboards, and my favorite (and one I'm currently typing on) is the Atreus [1]. I think they had one in the Planck that beeped when it turned on or connected to bluetooth or something. Most keyboards you can program use an AVR chip, which is more than enough, and you can also program that from Rust. But would be nice to try it if i get the chance. Kinesis Advantage; you can put the parts quite far aside, though. I also gave silly mouse a chance and it turns out I like it very much now - not for games but otherwise very good and fits in hand great. I am not a big fan of the backlit keycaps that came with the ErgoDox EZ Glow, anyway. Unlike the original Dactyl, the Ergodox, and the Kinesis, I have no problems at all using all 6 keys per thumb cluster on the Dactyl Manuform. If I was gonna get one of these in the future, id probably use it in the office given its a little more portable. Nevermind switch choice. I bought my ErgoDox EZ in late April, and one of my criteria was wider keys for the pinky fingers. I'm really dreading the day I finally destroy it and have to find some new keyboard to replace it. This one seems a bit better designed, but can't tell from the pics if they solved that particular issue - I suspect not. But IMHO, the most ergonomic switches are low-travel ones. I may forget about this thread, but feel free to reach us via https://UltimateHackingKeyboard.com/. Why do split keyboards charge a premium? FWIW, I'm a happy customer and you may need to read this comment accordingly. Everything starts with the frame. I had a slightly different experience. And yes, the Moonlander looks very interesting! You can reprogram, but you can't just add a regular "Y" key on the left and a "T" key on the right that are where they are supposed to be. Looks line ZSA is borrowing Kinesis's idea of putting a number of special keys into a "thumb-bar". Then, try connecting to Live Training. a double height enter key. I find it pretty easy to switch between laptop keyboard and Advantage2, so no problems there. But the keys in the middle are differently sized; there are two of them for the three rows of keys. Advantages of Moonlander. Now I'm thinking that I'll need to take the plunge and get something more ergonomic, because I've still got a lot of career left. Though you're now in custom keyboard territory which means you're either building it yourself, or finding a person/company to assemble it for you. The Maltrons have a lot of keys positioned in ways that add nothing to ergonomics. [B] https://kinesis-ergo.com/shop/freestyle2-vip3-accessory/. Maybe Zambia or Zimbabwe Space Agency. 2) they’re very susceptible to static electricity shocks on the exposed metal parts Or have a key sequence to restart the timer. E.g., Corne, Kyria, Ferris. But it will take some time to educate everyone, starting with doctors who need to keep up with 'modern health issues' caused by using the computer whole day. In this case it's a combination of switch mechanism and keycaps. Materialism: the belief that acquisition of something outside myself will finally bring me permanent satisfaction. The thumb clusters need to be bigger and closer to the alphas so they're more powerful and more easily reached. Might as well learn Dvorak keyboards. - The thumb block is more comfortable now, but 2 keys smaller. Conclusion: just because it's standard doesn't mean it's the best choice. Well they are more time consuming and expensive to build for hobbyists, but I think that the main reason is that when you get a fully programmable keyboard it enables a lot of useful features that obviate things like dedicated function keys and the number pad. (Also, most of them miss one or more of F keys, symmetrical meta keys, standard navigation cluster layout, volume buttons - it's like they want their devices to be less useful, not more!). Sure, it would be harder to tell who the early adopters are, in case it is any measure of skill or determination, but that's a trade-off I would be happy with - instead of being the odd ones out, we'd be pioneers setting the trend ;). I started out with an Atreus42 in 2016 and really loved it, so I totally get that outer columns are superfluous in most circumstances. I wish they offered an even cheaper version without the silly Mouse in the package. But mini keyboards just mess with the layout to maybe give you half the standard keys in non-standard places. For what it's worth, having a programmable keyboard is super cool even without the ergonomic benefits. I recently bought and Ergodox-EZ, after previously getting my first mechanical keyboard (the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard, which I love). But I only find clicky switches acceptable if you're working from home, or have a personal office. I'm mostly touching the inner edge of the key because my pinkies aren't that laterally flexible. When this happens it will often lead to the keyboard disconnecting from usb. They run at double digit megahertz clocks. I'll take these one at a time. For one thing the "Moonlander" keyboard came out the same week I was making up my mind. This is my biggest issue with the Kinesis Advantage and ErgoDox. The Ergodox EZ actually uses a four-connector TRRS connector, not the three-connector TRS connector you use for ordinary stereo headphones. For what it's worth, I don't find the ML switches on my Advantage 2 nor the rubber domes on my Advantage 1 particularly offensive; if you are using the function keys constantly then your viewpoint might differ. Issue 1 has been fixed quite a while ago. The jump from that to this ARMv5 CPU is similar to that from this ARMv5 to an Intel Xeon. A purposed KB IC probably wouldn’t handle split halves. Here's a write up of one of them: I know some people have, but part of the fun is doing it yourself :). I hope it works out. Ugh I wish Illustrator would let me use these, it only lets me assign shortcuts to cmd, cmd-shift, cmd-alt, and cmd-alt-shift. I use the MBP too. Even my 2018 15" MBP is great. I transitioned over to the ergo k680, and have really enjoyed it. Black Solder Mask. I think they need to go for a smaller ergo though, I would also have liked a more aggressive columnar stagger, but I will still get one. The ErgoDox EZ I use in the office is equipped with MX Brown switches, and the layout I came up with after quite a few iterations is a fairly ordinary QWERTZ keymap with an extra layer for German … I upvoted it then, and do so again now. Or staying connected (power on) but not responding to input. There is this person selling assembled to order Dactyl manuforms: Can you add more details about the problems you had with the Kyria thumb positioning? Dactyl Manuform). Sure, loud noises ruin my concentration. I don't know if I'd call this Moonlander "next generation," but it's an intriguing combination of what I like in the Advantage and Freestyle. And they're open source firmware support is amazing. Be careful using wrist rests. But oddly enough, my biggest gripe with the Ergodox isn't something I've heard people complain about - the lack of an extra column of keys on the right part. The wires made it useless for me. They're too big to take with you to work. Pre-soldered PCBs only require switches (not included) to be soldered. It’s better than the cancerous lump of excrement that is the Magic Mouse 2 though. I used a Kinesis Advantage for a few years before switching to the Kinesis Freestyle Edge RGB. Laptops for sure should start slightly angling, but if the unit is separate from the computer, why rant against user choice? my muscle memory seems to be fine when switching back and forth. What you actually want is more than that, things like a double height enter key. I went from the MS Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 (which I used for years and loved) to the Freestyle Pro (same layout, but with mechanical switches and programmability) and it made a huge difference in my posture and shoulder tension. The Moonlander has its USB Type-C connector … Next, I discovered there were numerous choices to make about the exact Ergodox EZ was was going to order. I don't want this specific keyboard, so it isn't a win for me, but there are surely dozens of folks like me, dozens! Meaning you either have to move the return key to somewhere else, or move the "'" key somewhere else. After using Advantage2 for 10ish years I can't really go back to a flat keyboard. You may have already understood in spite of that just in case there are 2 primary families of Dactyl keyboards, the Dactyl, and the Dactyl Manuform. The columnar layout thesis ("your fingers move vertically, not horizontally!") He lent me one, I liked it and bought it from him. If more people knew about the benefits they bring, problems they solve, they would be much more popular. Currently I have the Microsoft natural ergonomic keyboard 4000 and I am quite happy with that. When we're out of virus times look for a mechanical keyboard meet up near you. Unfortunately if you can't 3d print the case yourself and hand-wire it, its pretty expensive to acquire one. A long press is "Ctrl + Media Stop", which my media player recognizes as "Stop after current track". I second the Microsoft Sculpt as one of the most comfortable keyboards I have ever found. If you have distinct work and personal computers and setups, use different keyboards and layouts for each. I have a couple of Topre FC660Cs and absolutely love the feel, durability and quality of the keyboard. From the bottom picture, it kind of looks like a headphone jack, but I'm doubting that's the case. The Kyria keyboard has sockets for rotary encoders on it, but that's more like a scroll wheel than a trackball. The cheapest one is in the first link. I bought a vertical mouse (cheap Anker) at the same time. There are other layouts, for example, German, that should have the big enter key. (And symmetrical meta keys.) If you are using your keyoboard to type words then you do want the keys for navigation - Page Up, Page Down, Home, End, Delete - plus the arrow keys. But in order to take advantage of the stagger, I have to keep my wrists at the same angle of the plate, and if I keep my wrists at that same angle then my thumbs have to hit the keys with their side and tuck to the side of my palm like a trex because there's not as much space between the thumb and the keys. We need more options with long-term companies and support. I switched to a columnar layout split QMK keyboard a few months ago. Some games use the arrows for moving the viewport, and I find split arrow keys unworkable for that. I have washed a regular keyboards in a dishwasher, electronics and all. Plus microsoft can make slim margins on their keyboard and make it up elsewhere; ZSA just sells keyboards and related accessories. ZSA has introduced their next-generation ergonomic keyboard this week in the form of the Moonlander Mark 1, which joins their current offering in the form of the ErgoDox … Its problem when 'you life to buy things, not buy things to live.'. Specifically, this has a STM32F303xC. I don't understand. One quick take away is the underglow seems to improve the … In the case of the Planck, it's also to reduce finger travel. I'm using the 5x6 layout. Have been using Kinesis keyboards for many years. - I have a window switching key, which holds down Alt and presses Tab, but keeps Alt held down for 0.5s in case of subsequent presses. They're about preventing a serious reduction in your productivity years from now. That's an extra ten bucks for keys that... most people don't use that often. I was thinking the same on the keycap profile. The ErgoDox EZ, in my opinion, is the most versatile keyboard on the market. Can't imagine water being too good for the USB hub electronics & such. 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